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Jeremy Horn

REPOST: The Friendly Indie by Jeremy Horn.

EDITORS NOTE RE-POST: This was originally posted on 1-29-10. It is a really good post by recording artist Jeremy Horn about the use of music on your website.



Photogs are always looking for great music to use on their websites, customer slide shows, and animotos. Most folks are unaware that music isn't free to use in public forums like websites etc.  You may or may not know that most major label or "signed" recording artists do not own the copyrights to their own music. So that tune you hear on the top 40 station driving to work each day doesn't belong to the guy or gal who is singing it anymore. Even if you found them on facebook or twitter and asked him or her to use the tune, they couldn't grant you that right. Even if they wanted too! To use the tune it would mean getting a mechanical license from their record company to legally use the music. This of course has a cost, (blah, blah, blah, bummer I know.) This can be a hard expense to justify when you are just starting out or income is tight and sadly, this is where the line blurs on what is wrong and right. Many artists' music ends up on websites and in photographer's products without proper credit and or under the label's radar. Before you say, "Come on, it's just music!" Remember it would be just like you doing a session for a client, who bought a basic set of prints and then copied the pictures freely at the local Kodak photo maker without your consent. Stealing intellectual property is still stealing. There's just no way around it.

 

For any artist or photographer starting out can be difficult. Money is tight. You work for the love of the craft and because it's your passion, hoping one day it can become a full time occupation. Photogs want their work to come across as hip and fresh. They want the music they use in their projects to reflect who they are as an artist. They use the music to connect the soul of their work to the soul of the client. Everybody knows a good tune pulls at the heart strings and helps make an emotional connection. The end result is that mom wanting to buy every picture you took of her little Johnny or that bride remembering how special her wedding day was and wanting those extra shots in her wedding book. It's pretty safe to assume modern working photographers need great music.  Giving most people the benefit of the doubt and honestly believing no one likes the idea of stealing intellectual property from another artist, I would like to offer a suggestion. Embrace an independent artist.

Believe it or not there are a sea of amazing indie musicians out there who are dying to just have their music heard. They have no ties to anyone, have total control of their careers and work hard at making great art. They would love to have you use their material. Through a simple social networking message or email you may find yourself a new creative partner. As partners you can mutually benefit. If you find an indie artist who you love, reach out to them. Don't be scared to at least try. Most musicians off stage are not rock stars. They are just normal people like you and I trying to make a living. They are really flattered when people appreciate what they do. If they are a local artist or a touring act, offer to do a local session or shoot their live show when they are in town in exchange for the right to use their tunes in products or in media outlets like the web. Give them the same writes with your photos.  More times than not they are going to gladly say yes. Artists are always in need of content for websites and trade mag write-ups. Great photos are killer for promotional material and blog posts. Who knows, that pic you took could end up in Rolling Stone? Crazier things have happened.

Indie musicians in general are broke so they think they can't afford to hire a "professional" photographer. Thus the sea of terrible album covers and packaging out there with do it yourself artwork and photos. (We've all seen them and got a little nauseous, I know.)  The best part of trying this route is if you strike up a friendship you can begin to promote each other within your own circle of influence. Clients and fans will ask, "I love that song who wrote it?" or "That's an amazing picture who took it?" And you can say "Oh a really brilliant artist/photographer friend of mine..." and in that simple act you just widened the fan and client base for you both. It's a smart, simple way to get what you need for your business and in return help a fellow artist. I'd call that a win, win situation.

Jeremy Horn


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13 Comments

Jeremy Horn is the real deal.

Allison and I met him 3 years ago when he was playing a song from his first album for a live morning show. We approached him and asked to use his song on our site and from that has grown a great mutually beneficial working relationship. Just like he said.

The best thing about the fact that Jeremy's fast approaching Coldplay stardom level, is that we can ride his coat tails to fame and fortune.

So Jeremy get working on the next big song, then you can come pick me up in your Jet.

Great article, Jeremy. Networking is a wonderful thing! Man, Jeff- thought you liked him because he's a great guy and friend... the truth comes out! ; ) But, do you need a makeup artist, too Jeremy...?

I met you guys at Imaging...Checked out ya'lls website and heard Jeremy's songs with your slideshows - i.love.his.music! I even jotted the songs down to search for his music on itunes! his music is awesome - he's ready to be "big" time in my book. So, how can I use his songs with my slideshows? Can I help get his name out there? Can I contact him? I also saw that he has lead Dnow - maybe he can come to our town and do that!!!
Oh, and I just ordered my iphone camera cover - can't wait to get it!!!

Jeremy, what do you suggest for compensation to local indie musicians that you want to use, if they've already had their photos done?

This is was a GREAT post. Supporting other artists is a great way to cross promote and raise the awareness of everyone. If you have to have a signed/big name tune.. PAY FOR IT. Is it expensive? (worked out to about $1200 a year here is Aust for 3 songs and they had to play randomly). I would expect someone to pay to use my photos.. that works out to my day rate for commercial. Stealing is stealing!

Thanks so much for pointing out the alternatives. I love your music too Jeremy..

Jenni, I would just ask first. Really like I said if the artist is independent he or she is really just wanting the music to be heard. Letting them know how many hits your site gets daily is always helpful. Get your site setup with google analytics so you can see who and how many visits you are getting daily. If someone told me they got multiple unique site visits daily, I be really open to just letting them use the tune. Basically you are letting them use your site to market their music. If an artist demands compensation then you'd have to work that out with them. I'd say $30 to $50 a month for an indie artist would be fair.

So it wouldn't be something like what Triple Scoop does where you pay $60 for the use of the music? I have purchased other use of music from songwriters and the most I paid was $150 one time fee.

Candace, I'd love to be involved with your church's DNOW. Feel free to contact me if you ever need someone. At this point I'm under contract with Ardent Records so you would need to contact them for licensing requests, but be on the look out for the rights to tunes from my first album Atmosphere. That is still an indie project I own. You'll be able to get the rights right here on lbobi really soon! By the way I love my lbobi iphone case, you're gonna love it! All the best, JH

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

Triple scoop is a great site for finding music. The licensing is very reasonable.

lbōbi called me today and said he LOVES it when you guys talk back and forth and have real dialogue like this. He is currently base jumping in the Andes with George Clooney.

Remember, lbōbi is counting on you guys.

great idea! thanks so much for posting this. i will definitely look into this further. we have a great coffee shop nearby that pulls in indie artists from up and down the east coast (jammin' java in vienna, va). ideas are stirring... thank you!

Awesome Aileen!!! That's what we love to hear :)

Great post, Jeremy! That's exactly what I've done for the music to my site.

I'd be interested to know the point of view from other musicians and photographers, but when I open up a photographers website and hear a top 40 song, it's an instant turn off. I COULD be wrong, but I feel like if they're big time enough to use a top 40 song, they're not going to want to, but would rather something original and fresh (because they know that mind set is what has gotten them to that point), and if the photographer wants to use "chart toppers", they're methods are....less than legit shall we say? So if I open up a gallery or blog or anything else and I start to hear what could be my local Hits radio station, instant turn off. I'm never wild about a photographer who steals. :/

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